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'New' Movie 10 Daizenshuu Sketch; New food for thought
Topic Started: Jun 9 2011, 05:29 AM (12,919 Views)
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Jul 18 2011, 02:17 PM
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Jul 17 2011, 10:28 PM
If I may... I remember posting an excerpt from the movie's daizenshuu entry, stating that Gohan had indeed exhausted himself against Broly. Ah, here it is:

"But Kuririn rescues Gohan, who had used up all his strength and was about to be swallowed up by the lava. However, Broli is still alive!"
And that would only prove my point further to say that Gohan couldn't go SSJ2 which is why he went MSSJ to begin with as MSSJ is strainless from mastering it, it practically is his base augmented with his Super Saiyan power.

They cant/ never have transformed and fired a full power energy wave within a split second. One might try to say he bursted SSJ2 but then still, you would have to explain where he got the power from.

We know Goku is MSSJ and so is Goten so why would they make only Gohan SSJ2 for a split second?
A coloured edited picture that doesn't even appear in the actual movie itself isn't any sort of evidence at all.

If you watch the movie you'll clearly that scan doesn't exist in the movie, it's just has a close up of Gohan's face on the side, Goku and Goten then it cuts to the wave being launched at full power, there is no wide shot picture of the 3 of them from the front like that. There is a front on shot but it happens so quickly you barely get to see them and their glowing from the wave.

Goku is clearly Super Saiyan with his trademark '1 bang' hairstyle that he always has when he fires/ emits power from the Kamehameha wave. His hair always completely blows back except for one bang that shacks violently.

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They wouldn't make Gohan Super Saiyan 2 because then he would be more powerful than MSSJ Goku and we all know thats never the case in the movies.
Just making one of them SSJ2 completely discludes Goten, but saying they were both SSJ2? Goten may as well have just layed back down looking half dead.

"But Kuririn rescues Gohan, who had used up all his strength and was about to be swallowed up by the lava. However, Broli is still alive!"

Physical Strength falls in line with stamina. Without stamina you have no strength to do anything. It saying he had no energy left, it's merely saying he was stuffed from the fight.

But you have to explain why Goten's hairstyle doesn't blow back into a 'one bang' style.

That why I think Goku was SSJ2.
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Sorry i wasn't directing that to you, im bad at that lol, i was talkin to P123. I know your views on this matter as it stands.

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But you have to explain why Goten's hairstyle doesn't blow back into a 'one bang' style.

That why I think Goku was SSJ2.

- Gohan's hair does and doesn't depending on the drawer.

It's an easy to understand explanation.
To begin with Gohan already has 1 big bang constantly as MSSJ with a tiny bang next to it.
It's been shown through scans and scenes that Gohan's tiny second bang disappears from certain angles and sometimes even joins up with his 1 big bang.
Reasoning to why Akira changed his style could very well be because of the annoyance of drawing the small bang consistently when it's just easier to draw one.
Edited by Ryebrid, Jul 19 2011, 09:11 AM.
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The funny thing is, that screencap from the RoSaT probably resembles his SSj2 features more than the one being argued. I can just see the potential theories emerging now...

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Jul 19 2011, 07:48 AM

Reasoning to why Akira changed his style could very well be because of the annoyance of drawing the small bang consistently when it's just easier to draw one.


I never really understood how people could accept that as a logical explanation... I mean a small line or two doesn't even take a second to draw, there would be no hindrance involved whatsoever. And with that logic, Goku shouldn't have been drawn with the 2, sometimes 3, extra spikes of hair on the sides of his head as a SSj2... but I digress.
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Badabing!

I needed to come back to this topic;

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Goten's hair does blow back so according the Daiz sketch, Goku and Gohan are flat out SSJ2 while Goten is clearly SSJ.
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That panel of Goten there is actually more evidence toward Goku not being depicted as SSj2 because it is drawn with the two spikes of hair on each side of his head, something that Goku in Movie 10 clearly lacked. Thanks for bringing it up, although it's not like our side really needed anymore evidence.
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Badabing!

Wait what? Do you think Goten is SSJ2 there or something? :P

It is more evident to Goku being depicted as an SSJ2 because Goten's hair isn't blown back in the Daiz sketch along with Goku.

Think about it for a second. The scan I posted shown Goten's hair when blown back correct? Now in the Daizenshuu sketch Goten's hair isn't blown back. So if Goten's isn't, then Goku's isn't.

So we are now left with Goku and Gohan being SSJ2.

In short the Goku's hair being blown back excuse is null and void because evidence shows that Goten's hair isn't blown back.
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We know Gohan wasn't, though.
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The panel with Goten proves that the spikes on the side of his head wouldn't be omitted regardless of any external factors that would have an effect on their hair. Which means there is no reason why Goku wouldn't be drawn with those spikes on the side of his head if he were truly intended to be depicted as SSj2.

So wind or no wind, Goku should always have more than one strand of hair as a SSj2.
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Aug 1 2011, 03:08 AM
We know Gohan wasn't, though.
Well, that part is contradicted.
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